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		<title>By: Thanks for visiting&#8230;, and for the comments &#124; Exit78</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thanks for visiting&#8230;, and for the comments &#124; Exit78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jannie,
I like the present moment too....I realized I was being too quiet and the club was being too noisy.....Since 73% of American Women believe in Canadian and UK health care systems I thought some of us should start letting the other&#039;s know were are out here.

I can only say:&quot;Where is Joe Wilson&#039;s Mother? And what is wrong with her and his wife?&quot;   It took the congress to let him know that he was rude......and out of order.  

He just thinks he is being targeted and made an example  - Duh!  yes!

I am hoping some other mother&#039;s are going to step up and say bullying and rudeness is not what we want to see in our members of Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jannie,<br />
I like the present moment too&#8230;.I realized I was being too quiet and the club was being too noisy&#8230;..Since 73% of American Women believe in Canadian and UK health care systems I thought some of us should start letting the other&#8217;s know were are out here.</p>
<p>I can only say:&#8221;Where is Joe Wilson&#8217;s Mother? And what is wrong with her and his wife?&#8221;   It took the congress to let him know that he was rude&#8230;&#8230;and out of order.  </p>
<p>He just thinks he is being targeted and made an example  &#8211; Duh!  yes!</p>
<p>I am hoping some other mother&#8217;s are going to step up and say bullying and rudeness is not what we want to see in our members of Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Jannie Funster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jannie Funster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, that must seem like  another lifetime, your seminary years and ministership.  (I know ministership is not even a real word.)  So many changes since.  So many taco salads and lemonades ago.  So many walks around the lake have passed.

We are right where we need to be at any given moment, the sages say.  I like this moment!

Except my shoe strap broke, boo hoo.  On my wedge heels, my one and only pair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, that must seem like  another lifetime, your seminary years and ministership.  (I know ministership is not even a real word.)  So many changes since.  So many taco salads and lemonades ago.  So many walks around the lake have passed.</p>
<p>We are right where we need to be at any given moment, the sages say.  I like this moment!</p>
<p>Except my shoe strap broke, boo hoo.  On my wedge heels, my one and only pair.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin,
I have seen many Parliaments in action and I have witness congress here in person and see the Korean fighters on the news!
This was a formal speech by the President of the USA - this was not a debate or discussion speech.

To see folks giving the &quot;finger&quot;,  doing things on the PDA and then shouting out  truly just showed the citizens what a bunch of &quot;closed minded&quot; people are attempting to bully a decision.  So far I think the only place it is working is in Arkansas&#039;

People need to do their homework on this one and take responsibility themselves and not give over to the baffoons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin,<br />
I have seen many Parliaments in action and I have witness congress here in person and see the Korean fighters on the news!<br />
This was a formal speech by the President of the USA &#8211; this was not a debate or discussion speech.</p>
<p>To see folks giving the &#8220;finger&#8221;,  doing things on the PDA and then shouting out  truly just showed the citizens what a bunch of &#8220;closed minded&#8221; people are attempting to bully a decision.  So far I think the only place it is working is in Arkansas&#8217;</p>
<p>People need to do their homework on this one and take responsibility themselves and not give over to the baffoons</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Patricia - I think you would be astounded by the language our Australian politicians use - they have developed insults and interruptions to an artform. They only do it in parliament - not outside. It&#039;s incredible!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Patricia &#8211; I think you would be astounded by the language our Australian politicians use &#8211; they have developed insults and interruptions to an artform. They only do it in parliament &#8211; not outside. It&#8217;s incredible!</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cath,
A number of people believe that there is only one answer and one person they trust to deliver it.  83% of the people in Arkansas believe Rush Limbaugh&#039;s words are truth and that our President is a Muslim, Nazi, fascists according to TIME Magazine this week - it takes some folks several life times to figure life out - the other&#039;s just need to figure out ways to educate or be patient.  
One reason I became a clergy person is that my particular church is so open and affirming and accepting of diversity, but there is always the first test case which is often scary.
So nice to find you here - thank you for coming by.   I still have your Jannie CD for you

JD
thank you - learn the lesson is also a good combination threat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cath,<br />
A number of people believe that there is only one answer and one person they trust to deliver it.  83% of the people in Arkansas believe Rush Limbaugh&#8217;s words are truth and that our President is a Muslim, Nazi, fascists according to TIME Magazine this week &#8211; it takes some folks several life times to figure life out &#8211; the other&#8217;s just need to figure out ways to educate or be patient.<br />
One reason I became a clergy person is that my particular church is so open and affirming and accepting of diversity, but there is always the first test case which is often scary.<br />
So nice to find you here &#8211; thank you for coming by.   I still have your Jannie CD for you</p>
<p>JD<br />
thank you &#8211; learn the lesson is also a good combination threat!</p>
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		<title>By: J.D. Meier</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D. Meier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; I was given a second chance to write the poem and thus get the better grade.
I liked how you turned the situation around.  Try and try again is a recipe for success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I was given a second chance to write the poem and thus get the better grade.<br />
I liked how you turned the situation around.  Try and try again is a recipe for success.</p>
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		<title>By: Cath Lawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cath Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Patricia - I&#039;ll never understand why so many people can go to church each week and still be so hateful.

I also read about the Obama speech on Momgrind.  It makes you wonder what those people who kept their kids from school actually want them to learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Patricia &#8211; I&#8217;ll never understand why so many people can go to church each week and still be so hateful.</p>
<p>I also read about the Obama speech on Momgrind.  It makes you wonder what those people who kept their kids from school actually want them to learn.</p>
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		<title>By: patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bunny,
I often say to myself that I must speak out because if folks don&#039;t know something they do not know how to respond to it.  I am trying to say here that this is active &quot;hate&quot; right before your eyes - see this so you can recognize it for what it is and then be aware the next time ....Know and learn how to respond.  Like Eleanor Roosevelt!

We talk about Bullying all the time - this was bullying by so called &quot;winners&quot; in our society.  Many would say it was just political strategy - everybody does it!  That is modifying the behavior - making it normative.   I would say this is a public lynching and these folks are closed/rigid and the citizens do not matter at all.  I would not have said anything or written this post except it was a moment to teach and share.

Jannie,
Good lessons to teach your child - if you are not open to learning something new you are closed down.  Who wants a Representative or Senator who is closed to learning and spewing hate and disrespect?  

Many many churches were the last male bastion of local control - the guys were afraid of women entering the field and the unknown - now 52% of all students in Seminary are women!  
I was able to learn from this experience and helped to set guidelines  which would assist blending and diversity of talents in the future.  

There were only 11 women in Seminary and 750 men when I entered.  9 women had some form of nervous breakthrough - most of my male colleagues left when Nixon abolished the draft. 

A large potion of my Call to Ordination is Community Service - I have to be aware and learning all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bunny,<br />
I often say to myself that I must speak out because if folks don&#8217;t know something they do not know how to respond to it.  I am trying to say here that this is active &#8220;hate&#8221; right before your eyes &#8211; see this so you can recognize it for what it is and then be aware the next time &#8230;.Know and learn how to respond.  Like Eleanor Roosevelt!</p>
<p>We talk about Bullying all the time &#8211; this was bullying by so called &#8220;winners&#8221; in our society.  Many would say it was just political strategy &#8211; everybody does it!  That is modifying the behavior &#8211; making it normative.   I would say this is a public lynching and these folks are closed/rigid and the citizens do not matter at all.  I would not have said anything or written this post except it was a moment to teach and share.</p>
<p>Jannie,<br />
Good lessons to teach your child &#8211; if you are not open to learning something new you are closed down.  Who wants a Representative or Senator who is closed to learning and spewing hate and disrespect?  </p>
<p>Many many churches were the last male bastion of local control &#8211; the guys were afraid of women entering the field and the unknown &#8211; now 52% of all students in Seminary are women!<br />
I was able to learn from this experience and helped to set guidelines  which would assist blending and diversity of talents in the future.  </p>
<p>There were only 11 women in Seminary and 750 men when I entered.  9 women had some form of nervous breakthrough &#8211; most of my male colleagues left when Nixon abolished the draft. </p>
<p>A large potion of my Call to Ordination is Community Service &#8211; I have to be aware and learning all the time.</p>
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