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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://patriciaswisdom.com/2009/07/part-ii-the-case-for-eliminating-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-7146</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dot,
This book is hard to put down because it explains the gambling and exposes it to be what it really is...

There are much better ways to live a good life with meaning and include economic well being also</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dot,<br />
This book is hard to put down because it explains the gambling and exposes it to be what it really is&#8230;</p>
<p>There are much better ways to live a good life with meaning and include economic well being also</p>
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		<title>By: Dot</title>
		<link>http://patriciaswisdom.com/2009/07/part-ii-the-case-for-eliminating-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-7145</link>
		<dc:creator>Dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I&#039;ve never understood why economics is made to sound so complex, I&#039;ve mostly just figured I must be missing something because I&#039;m so bored by it that I can&#039;t read about it for more than a minute or two.

I&#039;ve been saying for years that it&#039;s absolutely absurd that we base our pension income on gambling.  Even though it&#039;s usually a mutual fund manager who&#039;s doing the gambling, not us, it doesn&#039;t make sense.

It&#039;s even harder to understand how we could base an entire economy on it.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dots last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/deeperissues/eVcQ/~3/dno44fhjnfU/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Life Goes On&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I&#8217;ve never understood why economics is made to sound so complex, I&#8217;ve mostly just figured I must be missing something because I&#8217;m so bored by it that I can&#8217;t read about it for more than a minute or two.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been saying for years that it&#8217;s absolutely absurd that we base our pension income on gambling.  Even though it&#8217;s usually a mutual fund manager who&#8217;s doing the gambling, not us, it doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s even harder to understand how we could base an entire economy on it.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Dots last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/deeperissues/eVcQ/~3/dno44fhjnfU/" rel="nofollow">Life Goes On</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://patriciaswisdom.com/2009/07/part-ii-the-case-for-eliminating-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-7073</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MM,
Yes I did write the summary - thank you for thinking it was impressive!  I just really think people need to read this book - it lays out all the ground work with easy to understand stories...I have never read an economics book I could not put down.  Korten just makes sense for individuals and for the planet. 
Thank you for coming by</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MM,<br />
Yes I did write the summary &#8211; thank you for thinking it was impressive!  I just really think people need to read this book &#8211; it lays out all the ground work with easy to understand stories&#8230;I have never read an economics book I could not put down.  Korten just makes sense for individuals and for the planet.<br />
Thank you for coming by</p>
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		<title>By: Metropolitan Mum</title>
		<link>http://patriciaswisdom.com/2009/07/part-ii-the-case-for-eliminating-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-7060</link>
		<dc:creator>Metropolitan Mum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you write the summary? This is truly impressive. It shows me how much I am still occupied with gazing at my own navel (and my baby&#039;s). I just managed to pick up a paper every other day during the last week. Time to take part in life outside the nursery again.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Metropolitan Mums last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metropolitanmum.co.uk/2009/07/wednesday-weigh-in-vol-8-or-the-swine-flu-diet-and-exercise-plan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wednesday Weigh-In Vol. 8. Or: The swine flu diet and exercise plan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you write the summary? This is truly impressive. It shows me how much I am still occupied with gazing at my own navel (and my baby&#8217;s). I just managed to pick up a paper every other day during the last week. Time to take part in life outside the nursery again.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Metropolitan Mums last blog post..<a href="http://www.metropolitanmum.co.uk/2009/07/wednesday-weigh-in-vol-8-or-the-swine-flu-diet-and-exercise-plan/" rel="nofollow">Wednesday Weigh-In Vol. 8. Or: The swine flu diet and exercise plan</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: patricia</title>
		<link>http://patriciaswisdom.com/2009/07/part-ii-the-case-for-eliminating-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-7049</link>
		<dc:creator>patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evita,
Thank you for coming by and reading this &quot;chunk down&quot;...I think this book is a wonderful start point to help us all arrive at a great start point with the same historic and current information. Even if we do not all agree - heaven help us if we did - I think this is a basic lesson to get the conversation out of hiding and into our living.

Phantom Wealth vs Real Wealth his definitions are so true for me.  And for all the economic classes I have taken, I learned so many new details and more global information that ever before.

I can say I have NEVER read a book about economics and not been able to put it down and feel like shouting out about it before.  Hope you feel excited about it too.

Thank you for coming on by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evita,<br />
Thank you for coming by and reading this &#8220;chunk down&#8221;&#8230;I think this book is a wonderful start point to help us all arrive at a great start point with the same historic and current information. Even if we do not all agree &#8211; heaven help us if we did &#8211; I think this is a basic lesson to get the conversation out of hiding and into our living.</p>
<p>Phantom Wealth vs Real Wealth his definitions are so true for me.  And for all the economic classes I have taken, I learned so many new details and more global information that ever before.</p>
<p>I can say I have NEVER read a book about economics and not been able to put it down and feel like shouting out about it before.  Hope you feel excited about it too.</p>
<p>Thank you for coming on by.</p>
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		<title>By: Evita</title>
		<link>http://patriciaswisdom.com/2009/07/part-ii-the-case-for-eliminating-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-7046</link>
		<dc:creator>Evita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This really sounds amazing Patricia, I will have to tag this book as a future must read!

My favorite part was the...&quot;but can the Earth afford it&quot; Gosh what a brilliant question to ask! I wonder how many of us do.
While I consider the environmental impact in my personal purchases, I have definitely never looked at it that way, and this way makes it even more powerful.

I also love this part:
&quot;5,000 years we have been in the Era of the Empire&quot;

Yup, to me this is all crumbling as we speak and making room for a new and more sustainable way of living for all on this planet. Enough monopolizing by the select few. How many houses, cars and stuff does one person really need? Our egos would have us believe that it is never enough. But the time has come where we start to see wealth in a brand new light!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really sounds amazing Patricia, I will have to tag this book as a future must read!</p>
<p>My favorite part was the&#8230;&#8221;but can the Earth afford it&#8221; Gosh what a brilliant question to ask! I wonder how many of us do.<br />
While I consider the environmental impact in my personal purchases, I have definitely never looked at it that way, and this way makes it even more powerful.</p>
<p>I also love this part:<br />
&#8220;5,000 years we have been in the Era of the Empire&#8221;</p>
<p>Yup, to me this is all crumbling as we speak and making room for a new and more sustainable way of living for all on this planet. Enough monopolizing by the select few. How many houses, cars and stuff does one person really need? Our egos would have us believe that it is never enough. But the time has come where we start to see wealth in a brand new light!</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://patriciaswisdom.com/2009/07/part-ii-the-case-for-eliminating-wall-street/comment-page-1/#comment-7022</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betsy,
Good post Thank you for the shout out about this book and ideas..
Explored Zemanta but could not really figure out how to use it

Do want to further the dialogue...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betsy,<br />
Good post Thank you for the shout out about this book and ideas..<br />
Explored Zemanta but could not really figure out how to use it</p>
<p>Do want to further the dialogue&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy Wuebker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy Wuebker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Patricia - This book sounds most impressive so far.  I furthered the argument into a post rather than hijack your comments, and I was amazed at the relevant posts Zemanta brought up pertaining to Korten and the concepts  Have a look and see what you think! :D

I can&#039;t wait to get the book and start reading.  Thank you for bringing our attention to it and furthering the dialogue.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Betsy Wuebkers last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://passingthru.com/2009/07/change-doesnt-come-from-the-top/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CHANGE DOESN’T COME FROM THE TOP&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Patricia &#8211; This book sounds most impressive so far.  I furthered the argument into a post rather than hijack your comments, and I was amazed at the relevant posts Zemanta brought up pertaining to Korten and the concepts  Have a look and see what you think! <img src='http://patriciaswisdom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to get the book and start reading.  Thank you for bringing our attention to it and furthering the dialogue.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Betsy Wuebkers last blog post..<a href="http://passingthru.com/2009/07/change-doesnt-come-from-the-top/" rel="nofollow">CHANGE DOESN’T COME FROM THE TOP</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betsy,
I have been a member of a Voluntary Simplicity community for 32 years.  And YES! magazine has been reporting on Positive Futures for a very long time...
There is a tremendous need for re-education and new thinking - I tried to limit my chunking down this book to the most information that was relevant in each section with a 1,000 word limit...David Korten is an &quot;off the wall&quot;  brilliant thinker and visioner and without all his stories and deeper explanations  and connecting us with  Global thinking and leaders in this area...
I am hoping to inspire folks to read this book ... so many more people can catch up to what some of us have been working on our whole lives.

Betsy when I read this whole book I was amazed at how little blame there was - it was more about what led folks to make decisions which opened up a new direction - the blame was only for those who suspended their values and manipulated people for their own private gain.

JD and Betsy,
Thank you for your fabulous comments - I am hoping all of this will inspire some great thinking and creativity.  

I am a bit worried though, because I  read a very funny post about a child with a new bed and 56 of the comments were about how clean the mommy blogger&#039;s baseboards were not even about how we help a child make transitions  - learn knew things....

I want to advertise about how we think this week!  and learn new things  that will support us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betsy,<br />
I have been a member of a Voluntary Simplicity community for 32 years.  And YES! magazine has been reporting on Positive Futures for a very long time&#8230;<br />
There is a tremendous need for re-education and new thinking &#8211; I tried to limit my chunking down this book to the most information that was relevant in each section with a 1,000 word limit&#8230;David Korten is an &#8220;off the wall&#8221;  brilliant thinker and visioner and without all his stories and deeper explanations  and connecting us with  Global thinking and leaders in this area&#8230;<br />
I am hoping to inspire folks to read this book &#8230; so many more people can catch up to what some of us have been working on our whole lives.</p>
<p>Betsy when I read this whole book I was amazed at how little blame there was &#8211; it was more about what led folks to make decisions which opened up a new direction &#8211; the blame was only for those who suspended their values and manipulated people for their own private gain.</p>
<p>JD and Betsy,<br />
Thank you for your fabulous comments &#8211; I am hoping all of this will inspire some great thinking and creativity.  </p>
<p>I am a bit worried though, because I  read a very funny post about a child with a new bed and 56 of the comments were about how clean the mommy blogger&#8217;s baseboards were not even about how we help a child make transitions  &#8211; learn knew things&#8230;.</p>
<p>I want to advertise about how we think this week!  and learn new things  that will support us.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD,
Yes, the interconnected system is a big part of this process and unique value is primary here - but I am finding that even here in the NW where the game is so much further down the process, people are not understanding - there is a huge lack of historic knowledge, civic understanding and a great deal of thinking that Star Wars the movie will just figure things out - I am finding 30 -40 year olds and 20&#039;s are a fairly highly educated ignorant group - bling they understand but not values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD,<br />
Yes, the interconnected system is a big part of this process and unique value is primary here &#8211; but I am finding that even here in the NW where the game is so much further down the process, people are not understanding &#8211; there is a huge lack of historic knowledge, civic understanding and a great deal of thinking that Star Wars the movie will just figure things out &#8211; I am finding 30 -40 year olds and 20&#8242;s are a fairly highly educated ignorant group &#8211; bling they understand but not values.</p>
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